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A few examples of lying being OK in the Bible:Genesis 12:13 Say, I pray thee , thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee.Genesis 20:2Abraham...

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Quote:I would say that you would only have to prove that it was abusive, i.e., harmful to the children. well, if you like. do you have any such proof that the children of these cultures were harmed by...

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Honestly, I am doing my best to understand your arguments and questions. Are you doing the same?I disagreed with you on only one point. You said that one would have to prove the intent of a culture to...

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so, if i understand you...it is impossible to show that romans meant to abuseit is impossible to show that roman children felt abusedit is impossible to show that roman culture suffered for this...

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So much for anwering my question about making a mutual effort in regard to understanding what the other person is saying. My original comments on the subject used roman practice and not its results as...

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Quote:My original comments on the subject used roman practice and not its results as an example of what would happen with expanding rights with no limits. so it is rather like saying 'we should try to...

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Quote:are you trying to tell me that you feel roman pederasty was 'based on the animal desires of the adults and not the nuturing needs of children' but not abusive? sorry, but you're playing with the...

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Quote:The fact that something is based on the needs of one group to the exclusion of nurturing another does not make the practice abusive.all right, i'll bite. how then would you typify the homosexual...

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Quote:why not, if you admit that you can't show that these practices were detrimental in any way?Let's try this again. For me to say someone is meeting their own animal desires is not to say that...

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Sorry for the delay in responding. Got into and exchange with Jeff and in between had to go to work, be a parent, and all that jazz. Haven't forgotten. I appreciate the information. My initial reply...

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Quote:To get to this point, for instance, in the U.S., the rights of children would have to be expanded. As far as Christians are concerned, there is no age at which a child can morally consent to a...

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Quote:fyi, i'm in canada. therefore, we don't pronounce in same-sex "marriage", but rather same-sex marriage,The reason I put marriage in quotes is that in the U.S. not all states recognize same-sex...

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Quote:The reason I put marriage in quotes is that in the U.S. not all states recognize same-sex unions as marriages. That would then be the proper punctuation to indicate that this particular word is...

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Quote:i find it is simply a way of belittling the institution, much like if i were to type Christian "values"First, "values" is not a legal term. It can be modified by any adjective. In fact, "values"...

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Quote:On the other hand, since same-sex partnerships are recognized neither in the U.S. nor Canada as marriagesexcept in seven provinces and a territory, or about 85% of the countryQuote:the use of...

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I know it hurts to lose to a Christian and an American in the same day.Here, let me cheer you up.Ever hear the one about all Canadians being either hockey players or whores?The punch line is, "Oh yea,...

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Quote:I will look for your response or refusal to respond, but I am finished with you on this topic.Thus endeth the lesson.Peace-------------------You lost, get over it.PeaceChristian peace, who needs...

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Remember, Christians aren't perfect, just saved."[But] the important thing is to, first of all, question everything you read or hear or see or are told. Question it. And try to see the world for what...

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i knew you had one more blow in ya.Quote:I know it hurts to lose to a Christian and an American in the same day.well, if presenting one piece of misinterpreted 'evidence' and then declaring yourself...

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Well, we can learn how to debate like a koheleth:Quote:If not, then your lack of explanation gets whatever interpretation I put on it.Step 1: Start with the assumption that if you dont get an...

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Quote:Are we at Peace?Well I thought it was quite funny when he called me an angry atheist after his display here.Still, I can't wait to see how he responds to my sub-thread.

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